This is the sixth Psychokinesis: Getting Started class as hosted by Genjo.
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Log was edited for readability.
Log:
11/15/07
[21:43:57] <Genjo> has apollo discussed the relationship between subconscious and conscious?
[21:46:18] <Genjo> okeydokey, well, when it comes to it, say you concentrate on the foil or your psi wheel or whatever you’re working on….you notice how PK doesn’t work “at will” its more of a waiting game…
[21:46:28] <Lancefighter> I tried the methods outlined by Apollo, but I achived the same results as trying the other ways…
[21:46:56] <Genjo> which methods : presumabley string and cloud?
[21:47:10] <Quick> Yep, string and cloud
[21:47:11] <Lancefighter> I tried both, yes.
[21:47:32] <Genjo> right, well, the ultimate goal with PK in the long run, personally, is to have….no method.
[21:48:16] <Genjo> by this i mean, instead of conciously thinking about it, or using intention manifestation/ possible subconcious.
[21:48:54] <Genjo> well, when i started PK back in the day, i always had a defined method, time eventually told me that having a specific method is restrictive in your imagination
[21:49:43] <Genjo> so, content for today: methodlessness (word?)
[21:50:30] <Genjo> when starting PK, its best to have one sort of, defined method that works for you.
[21:50:37] <Genjo> they say everyone develops their own personal method
[21:50:44] <Genjo> which is usually the case, if im not mistaken
[21:51:02] <Genjo> but, the best thing to start thinking about, is the future.
[21:51:18] <Genjo> if you adapt now, when you’re starting, it makes it ALOT easier to progress
[21:51:19] <neveza> Guys, shush, let Genjo speak until said otherwise.
[21:51:37] <Quick> Adapt?
[21:51:47] <Quick> to what?
[21:51:55] <Genjo> see, without a method, you can adapt to the surroundings/object
[21:52:35] <Genjo> take the string idea, great for starting out 
Levitation, but you get to a point where your mind says that, this fixated piece of string cannot “advance” or “adapt” anymore
[21:52:39] <Genjo> so you come to a standstill.
[21:53:00] <Genjo> and then, ultimately you will end up trying out other methods, and really all you’re doing is stopping yourself progressing.
[21:53:46] <Genjo> different methods have pro’s and cons
[21:53:53] <Genjo> having no method contains all pro’s
[21:54:05] <Genjo> what you need to get used to, is the “feeling” itself of PK, as opposed to a defined method
[21:54:41] <Genjo> lets say, your trying to roll a can
[21:54:53] <Genjo> you want to “push” or “Pull” it in a certain direction
[21:55:31] <Genjo> you end up having the same feeling, the tingling, the magnetic force feeling, whatever it is for you
[21:55:56] <Genjo> its THAT feeling, that allows you to have no method
[21:56:09] <Genjo> in time, you want to learn how to move the object by using that feeling in your hands, or your mind alone
[21:56:23] <Genjo> that is how to have “no method” so to speak
[21:56:36] <Genjo> before i continue, does everybody understand what im saying?
[21:56:50] <Lancefighter> it is similar to a tactile method in energy manip then?
[21:57:11] <Genjo> tactile is the key word.
[21:57:45] <Genjo> the reaons i call it methodless is because, in time, you can affect anything from anywhere, without doing anything
[21:57:54] <Genjo> minimal concentration is needed.
[21:58:08] <Quick> Can you Control remotly GenjO?
[21:58:14] <Genjo> to a degree
[21:58:31] <Genjo> there should be a few videos of me on the site
[21:59:07] <Genjo> what I do, is face the opposite direction to some tinfoil, then spin it. sounds simple, but with no eyes its hard.
[21:59:33] <Genjo> which brings me on to my second rant
[21:59:41] <Genjo> about control
[21:59:58] <Genjo> now, as a general question, what do you think is better: power or control?
[22:00:05] <neveza> Control.
[22:00:06] <Lancefighter> control
[22:00:08] <Jspapp> I remember this
[22:00:16] <Jspapp> Both together
[22:00:18] <Genjo> trick question: Control IS Power
[22:01:03] <neveza> Control leads to power
[22:01:12] <Genjo> what he said.
[22:02:12] <Genjo> Up until now, I’ve only used it, and not really described it, hence the lack of decent grammar.
[22:03:28] <Genjo> so, eventually, you develop the skill to affect an object without and real defined method
[22:05:57] <Genjo> so, you come to the point where you can affect an object with feeling, as opposed to having to use visualizations, and then *waiting* for the object to move
[22:06:31] <Genjo> one thing you notice, is , as you progress with having no method, the object responds alot quicker
[22:06:38] <Genjo> so again, this makes things a little easier
[22:07:11] <Genjo> now, heres the next challenge then
[22:07:12] <Genjo> control
[22:07:29] <Genjo> how do you go about controlling an object that you cant detect with your normal 5 senses
[22:08:07] <Quick> Use Tk
[22:08:08] <Genjo> this is something i call “gripping”
[22:08:28] <Genjo> so, you use no method, and you can control an object nearly instantly.
[22:09:05] <Genjo> now gripping, works on the same principle as having no method
[22:09:38] <Genjo> it may be due to the tactile nature of having no method, but to be honest, i dont know exactly how the mechanics work
[22:09:59] <Genjo> so, anyone got any ideas about how to go about gripping an object? =]
[22:10:05] <Genjo> *insert answers here*
[22:10:40] <EverLearning> ‘sensing’ its surface / its entirety, especially in relation to oneself
[22:10:46] <Genjo> bingo
[22:10:49] <Genjo> sensing
[22:11:11] <Genjo> ironically, sensing is PART of PK, PK isn’t just moving objects, it’s also linked in with other things, primarily sensing and Telepathy
[22:12:20] <Genjo> well, believe it or not, but when you move anything with PK, you grip it.
[22:12:26] <Genjo> its just acknowledging that grip
[22:12:45] <Genjo> lets get on to the practical now
[22:12:52] <Genjo> I’ve lectured for long enough, you must be bored.
[22:13:02] <Genjo> lets take any object thats near/around you
[22:13:40] <Genjo> ill give y’all a few minutes.
[22:14:30] <EverLearning> Are we attempting to move said objects now?
[22:14:51] <Genjo> no, right now we’re going to practice gripping, which allows you to move objects remotely alot easier
[22:15:00] <Genjo> please tell me if you think im moving forward too fast or slow
[22:16:32] <Genjo> right, im sure everyone has some object.
[22:17:01] <Genjo> now focus on the object
[22:17:18] <Genjo> and
[22:17:20] <Genjo> with all your will
[22:17:23] <Genjo> simply try to move it
[22:17:29] <Genjo> this exercise is made up of several parts
[22:17:39] <Genjo> what i want you to do is try to Shift the object to the left or right, as hard as they can.
[22:18:20] <Genjo> ill give y’all a few minutes.
[22:21:26] <Genjo> right
[22:21:29] <Genjo> everyone done?
[22:23:56] * EverLearning is done
[22:24:01] <Magicdood> Done.
[22:25:21] <Genjo> so, as you try to move the object
[22:25:30] <Genjo> notice the pressure felt inside your skull>?
[22:25:34] <Genjo> skull/head
[22:26:04] <Genjo> a little after you stop trying to move the object, the feeling is still there
[22:26:13] <Genjo> i find that, if i concentrate on the feeling again, it “locks on” to the object
[22:26:26] <Genjo> thus allowing me to relocate it, without the need of eyes
[22:26:33] <Jspapp> Genjo, I have a question
[22:26:40] <Genjo> fire away
[22:26:53] <Jspapp> How long did it take you to move on to something after the psiwheel
[22:27:00] <Genjo> i went on to foil
[22:27:03] <Genjo> well, it didnt
[22:27:10] <Genjo> when i teach people, i teach them to use foil
[22:28:02] <Genjo> well, to be honest, i never timed anything, i just see what happens when i concentrate on an object
[22:28:17] <Genjo> if it moves, then yay, ive advanced, if not, then i work harder
[22:28:40] <Genjo> the time span is totally individual
[22:29:57] <Genjo> my advice: try foil on a smooth surface, it has more friction than a pinwheel
[22:30:11] <Genjo> and also, looks alot more credible, and can be distinguished from air flow, or heat
[22:31:24] <Genjo> so, after dabbling with “gripping” , it becomes easier to detect your surroundings
[22:31:29] <Genjo> thus easier to move an object
[22:31:45] <Genjo> say i see my foil, as i think about it, i get the grip.
[22:31:54] <Genjo> once i have that grip, then i can use it however i please
[22:32:04] <Genjo> the gripping of the object allows for alot more precision too
[22:32:35] <Genjo> in the early days of Psychokinesis, i found that myself, as well as the others who i practiced with and have taught, all showed the same level of “gripping”
[22:33:08] <Genjo> it seemed that as opposed to a soft hand gently gripping the object, it was like a puddle of water, with no real form or solid state to actually affect the object
[22:33:23] <Genjo> so i suppose, as a homework task:
[22:33:35] <Genjo> concentrate on gripping an object
[22:33:51] <Genjo> becoming methodless is something that naturally develops overtime
[22:36:07] <Genjo> h’okeydokey, on basic Psychokinesis, thats probably my best advice =]
[22:52:47] <Genjo> i have lectures in the morning so im heading out now
[22:52:54] <Genjo> very welcome
[22:53:14] <Genjo> im sure in a few months time ill be teaching you guys some cool things, as im sure you’d have advanced alot by then