i only ask because i found i\'m somone who can teleport a lil. i\'ve only done it once and it was very weird, i don\'t even remember where i went but i think i teleported and was curious if there was a forum for this subject i did not see
so i just did some digging and found what i did is called \"phasing\" and not teleporting but i guess it\'s still pretty rare or whatever. original question still stands, along with now phasing and can i get help with what it is more clearly and how others do it
I heard of phasing too. I heard its a very wierd experience and it hurts like hell. Not sure if its true but it would be a cool experience. from what I read its more of walking through walls and solid objects than teleporting. That would be very wierd feeling indeed and I imagine would hurt pretty bad.
the feeling was phenomonally exhilerating and euphoric. it just got really strange when my guts felt like they were being rearranged that was the most extreme part. other than that it was completely awesome
Pherhaps its time to start trying to find a technique to be able to do it at will. Maybe you could sit and meditate going over your body from head to toe, then imagine the place your at and then imagine the place you want to be. Like maybe imaganing energy rushing through you taking you taking you apart and re-aranging you somewhere else.That sounds more violent then I said it but you probably get my picture. That wil be in my schedule of trainin from now on. Being able to teleport would be pretty fun.
i keep seeing this term but don\'t know what it means. and considering that this site deals with on a daily basis anything from tk to phasing you would think that maybe an open mind would walk hand and hand with this. no disrespect just kinda confused how phasing is possible, pk is possible, tk is possible but teleportation is beyond all bounds of reason and imagination. it\'s gonna bug me please get back to me on that one. and thank you for the phasing articles it\'ll help out a lot. again no disrespect just confusion lol
i don\'t remember my experience being that bad. in fact it was quite enjoyable. it struck fear in me for the first year because i didn\'t know how or when it could happen again and the last thing you wanna do is talk to a friend and suddenly disappear lol. but i don\'t remember pain. it was a euphoric sensation with me, a really peaceful, pleasurable experience. kinda like feeling buzzy all over and where my shirt phased feeling a light feeling and cold and buzzy and good and my mind felt stoned lol it was awesome. nothing like what rainsongs experiences were like. but she did say she had a deep rooted psychological version of thing falling apart for her whenever she phased. i remember mine was realizing i was connected to everything, and that was when the high started, then i remember feeling my shirt going through my skin and going with it and feeling nothing but this strange sense of \"wow this feels really good\" feeling lol.
it wasn\'t until my guts felt rearranged that i got freaked cuz it was real for me at that point. but i guess my deep rooted psychological feeling is letting go completely. does that make sense anyone out there lol.
well i can understand how skeptical things can be percieved especially never being experienced and sounding far too far fetched and ludacrous to actually be believed as anything but \"fluff\". Also the fact the internet doesn\'t really have a credible source very much.
i can see how all these factor skepticism to a point, but i believe a lot of people come on here bearing their heart and souls. i believe that a lot of people are going through crisis or are doing things that everyone around them says \"shouldn\'t\" be possible and calling them \"liars\" or \"lunatics\" and it bears down on them in a way that is really overbearing. i believe that ancient civilizations were able to do such things as esp, tk, astral project, etc. i believe if they could do it ANYTHING is possible.
i believe that over a long enough time strain ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is possible and i don\'t rule out anything, because i am human and if i can\'t trust another fellow human than what hope as a race do we have left. i believe a site like this is created to help those of us humans who don\'t have anywhere else to go come to a safe, believing place where we won\'t be judged, won\'t be looked at crazy. where we can help each other, learn from each other, and do it in a respectful believing place.
i also believe that if tk is possible which 60 short years ago was considered a \"fool\'s\" dream, then why can\'t ANYTHING and thus EVERYTHING else be possible. i believe that words and their meaning (hidden, unconscious or otherwise) are just as powerful as any physical harm you can direct towards a person. i believe that the words and emotions that are directed towards people, especially on a sit such as this with empaths, telepaths, etc. are STRONGLY influencial to thier growth and development in whatever area they chose to develop and I think that this word \"fluff\" is in every way a way to limit and therefore destroy what little faith is created on a site like this.
i believe that skeptics have every reason to be skeptical but just like any \"minded\" (closed, opened, safe, etc.) sect out there there is probably a place for them on this site. in fact, i do recall a place the said skepticism, somewhere on this site. after all my beliefs i do strongly think that for the growth and benefit of everyone who may have low self esteem, are new to this or that, don\'t know if it is working for them, it is a lot easier for them to have as least resistance from there start to their goal as possible.
but i do believe that everyone has a right to say what they have to say, as long as it does not beat a group of people down, discriminate, or bold facedly tell a group of people they are wrong.
sorry but i got to question this. Have you practiced for 30 years? Do you have proof that teleportation is not real? I dot think so. And before you say its unlogical let me point out that everything psionics do is considered \"Unlogical\" to the majority of people. Sorry if I sound rude but Im someone who belives anything is possible. The universe is a place that i belive we can bend to our will.
i just started my first lesson in qigong today by fluke but since i don\'t believe in coincidences i know it was universal gift lol
anyway eastern belief is a LOT more spiritual and into the completion of oneself into one being and thus with all around oneself. they go into depth of how mind affects body, a healthy emotional core affects mind, and an INNER ENERGY that is in all things and thus connects all things being able to be realized and \"manipulated\" into advanced healing, ESP, tk, and MANY other things that aren\'t even on \"record\" technically including but not limited to levitation, astral projection, plane shifting, phase shifting, elemental possession and shifting, anamorphic transformation and more. all been recorded over time in not only eastern but brought back to western, as well as discovered in some parts of south america and some islands.
though it can also be viewed as hearsay and folklore the same can be said about jesus and anything for that matter. the fact that many things considered \"strange and not normal\" in our current westernized society today does not mean that it is indeed either, considering ancient civilizations were doing these thing for years with no problem and in fact based rituals off of their interpretations of why these phenomena worked.
not attacking you or singling you out trick you just seem to play devil\'s advocate the most lol sorry
i\'m done
peace and truth on all people\'s walk of life on this site
I would like to 1st say to everyone good job on how far you have come in Psionics. The things i am saying here mean no disrespect to you, your abilities, your beliefs, how far youve come or anythings similar.
I want to begin from the begining (i will try to remember to not copy paste anything so as to make my post longer but intead keep to my words and only refer to other posts so as to keep this shorter). Phasing, PK (as it is called but everyone who uses it means Telekinesis or TK as it can be dubbed), Telepathy, Empathic Projection (Pushing), Telepathic Projection, Teleportation, and many other \"Fluff\"able ideas are feasable but and possible but HIGHLY improbable. Let me start with where this post began. Just as has been said there are \"flukes\" where a person is able to do something that is ment for an extremly high level of ability without much if any practice. This is called a \"flare\" by some but it can turn bad. If a person believes that can do this same ability without this flare and fails than they can get themselves in world of bad. (I will attempt to keep this post on the subject that this all was started on so that it doesn\'t sidetrack like has happened recently in this post. even by the original poster.)
There have been historically documented cases of a phase gone wrong. so let me explain what it is when you phase. I agree in part with the one that calls himself 3k. Phasing is \"mixing\" with the material in other objects. but it is not really mixing per-say. When a phase occures it is because the object to phase through is inanimate and physical so it is able to be \"morphed\" or \"shifted\" with out changing physical shape. Firstly let me explain this, all of the entire fully formed universe that is Phsical and sentient has 5 parts. Body (physical aprt of it), mind (were it goes through what it wants to do and tells its body to do that task), spirit (its life force without which it would die.), soul (the part that is sensative to things in other realms the part that is clarvoiant and able to \"see\" everywhere and anywhere when properly strengthened) and the Personality (the part that makes it unique (this is also the part that makes everyone the same, because you are unique ... just like everybody else.) and different). these 5 parts are what make us and animals/plants similar and also what make Psionics possible in the first place. I can go forever on the subject of how each ability uses what part of \"us\". I will stay on topic though. any questions can be posed later though. Physical objects that are inanimate have fewer parts. Body (physical part), Sprit (Etheral part), mind (it is very robotic and follows the flow of things in it\'s response. To physically influence a Physical
Inanimate object (PK/TK Phasing etc)
you need to be able to convince it that it is part of the way things are already flowing). When a person Phases through an object they are attempting to hold together the form and shape of themselves and move their atoms through another object is what 3k had said (which is generally what \"rain\" had done), what someone actually does (when they feel no pain from the experience) is they are causeing the inanimate object to change its structure and moving through it after that. The structure of the object is no longer mostly Physical but instead Etheral. It is no longer (in that part that is being influenced) able to physicaly resist the pressure put upon it when a person pushes against it. the change takes place in a very small area. It has little range. It is nearly only touch distance. this takes alot of concentration and is difficult at best to conciously(sp) do knowing how to do it. I would suggest that when you ahd phased, 4gotensage, that it felt similar to moving through water in the fact that you felt \"something\" around the part of you that \"phased\" though the object. it was for this reason i just explained. if you felt nothing of the sort than it was because you have not expanded to Extra Sensory Nodes and have difficulty \"sensing\" things beyond your imediate area. any way i have taken this post on for a while and should just let it drop as metalforever attempted. I hope that my stating the facts has assisted to halt this post so it goes no farther from truth and that it is kept from becoming fluff. If there are questions further than what i have explained please feel free to post. Let us keep speculation and \"fluff\" from the conversation and keep a more open mind on all subjects.
I have never phased nor have ANY experience with phasing, so I can not even begin to describe how it happens, but I have experience with teleportation. I do not like retyping things over and over again, so I will post a discussion of my explanation:
Quote:
[01:32] Yeah, whenever you have time. I\'m very interested in teleportation, if you have some light to shed on that.
01[01:33] What about it?
01[01:34] Teleporation is not so much different from typical psychokinesis except that the history of the object is skewed in relation to its location over its state of motion.
01[01:34] In typical psychokinesis, a mind-matter connection results in the injection of information into a system which elicits a response from the physical system outside of the present.
[01:35] Hm, I see. Would that be a bit different if the one teleported were myself?
01[01:35] It creates an alteration of the objects history so that it was always at x instead of y when it was originally at y.
01[01:35] This results in it jumping from y to x.
01[01:35] bobsackamo, I have only teleported a crayon pencil, once, and not myself.
[01:36] Hey, gotta start somewhere.
01[01:36] In teleporation, the history pertaining to the location of the object is changed resulting in a changing and introduction of future probabilities.
[01:37] I see.
01[01:37] Basically, information pertaining to the future outcome of it being at x instead of y is created and injected in such a way that it disrupts typical entanglement between the present and future and rentangles it with the new future outcome/probaility.
01[01:38] What happens is that the disruption via the non casual response by the physical system results in a type of gap between the present and the future in which the present-future entangles itself with the injected future probability.
01[01:38] Which results in it switching.
01[01:38] The object seems to jump from y to x.
[01:39] But in reality, your just moving it to an alternate reality which it already exists in then, right?
01[01:40] bobsackamo, we do not move through time, technically. Information, which is attached to the physical parts of the object, move via history.
[01:40] Or in which it potentially could have existed in at some point.
01[01:40] Basically, it is not one object through time.
01[01:40] It is mutiple objects through one time.
01[01:40] The past, present, and future are ALL different realities.
01[01:40] That all exists at once.
[01:41] Makes sense, since time, in the traditional sense we think of is only perceived.
01[01:42] You are fowarding information describing the state of the goal to the physical system non temporally which causes a type of upset.
01[01:42] Typically, you can not undo wave function collapse or basic entanglement.
01[01:43] You are not moving the object at all, technically.
03[01:43] * Numbers_ is now known as Numbers
01[01:43] Information describing that entire state is fowarded into a gap of sorts in which its constructed.
01[01:44] It does not undo the original history; it creates a divergence.
01[01:45] That all you wanted to know.
01[01:46] What I basically did is utilize assocations tied to doing PK with the object changing locations in the future.
01[01:46] In short, you are manipulating the history of the object via introduction of a probability of it being somewhere else via injection.
[01:46] So, your basically changing its \"coordinates\" by manifesting it towards a different awareness, in which it crosses into an alternate potential existence, and appears to move from one location to another?
01[01:47] bobsackamo something like that.
01[01:47] The potential, probable, etc state is manifested via the tie between the present and that moment.
01[01:48] The probability is no longer a probability by its definitive tie to the present, its past, and vice versa.
[01:48] I see, very interesting. Thank you very much, youv\'e given me alot to think about and an all new perspective on this altogether.
[01:53] I think this wouldnt be much different for teleporting a person then, except you would have to completely stop all thought, since each time you think of something you introduce many new variables and potentially alter your understanding. So you would basically have to enter a state of active stagnation I guess :p
01[01:54] bobsackamo, yes.
01[01:54] That is correct, but not totally.
01[01:55] The physical awareness of the location of your body would play an aspect.
01[01:55] You would have to enter a trance state or OBE first.
01[01:55] I am guessing.
01[01:55] I have never teleported myself or another person, before.
[01:55] That is what I currently was under the impression of.
[01:56] Well, Im not gonna go around trying to teleport other people, lol, just myself.
[01:57] Except, its more than an OBE
[01:57] OBE\'s and astral projection are only partial transferences of consciousness.
01[01:57] bobsackamo, that is debatable.
06[01:57] * +leodragon does not feel like going into it
Quote:
It is crucial to point out that, in the view of Schmidt and others who have conducted these studies, the
present intentions, wishes, or PK influences do not change the past. Once an event has occurred, it remains
so; it does not \"un-occur\" or change from its initial form. It appears, instead, that the intentions, wishes, or
PK \"efforts\" influence what happens (or happened) in the first place. To clarify this interpretation even
further, the time-displaced direct mental intervention could be said to \"change\" what would have happened,
but does not change what did happen. If, for example, the past events consisted of holes punched in a paper
tape record, the intervention does not remove holes that were already there. Instead, the intervention
influenced whether certain holes were punched in the first place—if they were punched, they remain
punched; if they were not punched, they remain unpunched.
WELLNESS IMPLICATIONS OF RETROACTIVE INFLUENCE: EXPLORING AN
OUTRAGEOUS HYPOTHESIS.
William Braud, PhD
Future probabilities are manipulated in relation to an inserted divergence in key states relevant to its past history which do not effect points in time prior to that divergence in retroactive forms of PK.
hmmmm
so i just did some digging and found what i did is called \"phasing\" and not teleporting but i guess it\'s still pretty rare or whatever. original question still stands, along with now phasing and can i get help with what it is more clearly and how others do it
thanks
I heard of phasing too. I
I heard of phasing too. I heard its a very wierd experience and it hurts like hell. Not sure if its true but it would be a cool experience. from what I read its more of walking through walls and solid objects than teleporting. That would be very wierd feeling indeed and I imagine would hurt pretty bad.
it didn\'t hurt it felt orgasmic lol
the feeling was phenomonally exhilerating and euphoric. it just got really strange when my guts felt like they were being rearranged that was the most extreme part. other than that it was completely awesome
Wow
Pherhaps its time to start trying to find a technique to be able to do it at will. Maybe you could sit and meditate going over your body from head to toe, then imagine the place your at and then imagine the place you want to be. Like maybe imaganing energy rushing through you taking you taking you apart and re-aranging you somewhere else.That sounds more violent then I said it but you probably get my picture. That wil be in my schedule of trainin from now on. Being able to teleport would be pretty fun.
i\'m sorry fluff?
i keep seeing this term but don\'t know what it means. and considering that this site deals with on a daily basis anything from tk to phasing you would think that maybe an open mind would walk hand and hand with this. no disrespect just kinda confused how phasing is possible, pk is possible, tk is possible but teleportation is beyond all bounds of reason and imagination. it\'s gonna bug me please get back to me on that one. and thank you for the phasing articles it\'ll help out a lot. again no disrespect just confusion lol
wow rainsong hates phasing lol
i don\'t remember my experience being that bad. in fact it was quite enjoyable. it struck fear in me for the first year because i didn\'t know how or when it could happen again and the last thing you wanna do is talk to a friend and suddenly disappear lol. but i don\'t remember pain. it was a euphoric sensation with me, a really peaceful, pleasurable experience. kinda like feeling buzzy all over and where my shirt phased feeling a light feeling and cold and buzzy and good and my mind felt stoned lol it was awesome. nothing like what rainsongs experiences were like. but she did say she had a deep rooted psychological version of thing falling apart for her whenever she phased. i remember mine was realizing i was connected to everything, and that was when the high started, then i remember feeling my shirt going through my skin and going with it and feeling nothing but this strange sense of \"wow this feels really good\" feeling lol.
it wasn\'t until my guts felt rearranged that i got freaked cuz it was real for me at that point. but i guess my deep rooted psychological feeling is letting go completely. does that make sense anyone out there lol.
gotcha
well i can understand how skeptical things can be percieved especially never being experienced and sounding far too far fetched and ludacrous to actually be believed as anything but \"fluff\". Also the fact the internet doesn\'t really have a credible source very much.
i can see how all these factor skepticism to a point, but i believe a lot of people come on here bearing their heart and souls. i believe that a lot of people are going through crisis or are doing things that everyone around them says \"shouldn\'t\" be possible and calling them \"liars\" or \"lunatics\" and it bears down on them in a way that is really overbearing. i believe that ancient civilizations were able to do such things as esp, tk, astral project, etc. i believe if they could do it ANYTHING is possible.
i believe that over a long enough time strain ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is possible and i don\'t rule out anything, because i am human and if i can\'t trust another fellow human than what hope as a race do we have left. i believe a site like this is created to help those of us humans who don\'t have anywhere else to go come to a safe, believing place where we won\'t be judged, won\'t be looked at crazy. where we can help each other, learn from each other, and do it in a respectful believing place.
i also believe that if tk is possible which 60 short years ago was considered a \"fool\'s\" dream, then why can\'t ANYTHING and thus EVERYTHING else be possible. i believe that words and their meaning (hidden, unconscious or otherwise) are just as powerful as any physical harm you can direct towards a person. i believe that the words and emotions that are directed towards people, especially on a sit such as this with empaths, telepaths, etc. are STRONGLY influencial to thier growth and development in whatever area they chose to develop and I think that this word \"fluff\" is in every way a way to limit and therefore destroy what little faith is created on a site like this.
i believe that skeptics have every reason to be skeptical but just like any \"minded\" (closed, opened, safe, etc.) sect out there there is probably a place for them on this site. in fact, i do recall a place the said skepticism, somewhere on this site. after all my beliefs i do strongly think that for the growth and benefit of everyone who may have low self esteem, are new to this or that, don\'t know if it is working for them, it is a lot easier for them to have as least resistance from there start to their goal as possible.
but i do believe that everyone has a right to say what they have to say, as long as it does not beat a group of people down, discriminate, or bold facedly tell a group of people they are wrong.
that\'s all i had to say lol
have a great day everybody
Im sorry
sorry but i got to question this. Have you practiced for 30 years? Do you have proof that teleportation is not real? I dot think so. And before you say its unlogical let me point out that everything psionics do is considered \"Unlogical\" to the majority of people. Sorry if I sound rude but Im someone who belives anything is possible. The universe is a place that i belive we can bend to our will.
science western or eastern belief
i just started my first lesson in qigong today by fluke but since i don\'t believe in coincidences i know it was universal gift lol
anyway eastern belief is a LOT more spiritual and into the completion of oneself into one being and thus with all around oneself. they go into depth of how mind affects body, a healthy emotional core affects mind, and an INNER ENERGY that is in all things and thus connects all things being able to be realized and \"manipulated\" into advanced healing, ESP, tk, and MANY other things that aren\'t even on \"record\" technically including but not limited to levitation, astral projection, plane shifting, phase shifting, elemental possession and shifting, anamorphic transformation and more. all been recorded over time in not only eastern but brought back to western, as well as discovered in some parts of south america and some islands.
though it can also be viewed as hearsay and folklore the same can be said about jesus and anything for that matter. the fact that many things considered \"strange and not normal\" in our current westernized society today does not mean that it is indeed either, considering ancient civilizations were doing these thing for years with no problem and in fact based rituals off of their interpretations of why these phenomena worked.
not attacking you or singling you out trick you just seem to play devil\'s advocate the most lol sorry
i\'m done
peace and truth on all people\'s walk of life on this site
4gottensage
no boundries
There are no boundries but the ones we make for ourselfs and others...try to remember that, and when you teleport next time can you tell me how?
Okay i have read nearly 100% of this post and...
okay i will post in a minute and i warn it is long.
Here is my take on the subject in question from the begining...
I would like to 1st say to everyone good job on how far you have come in Psionics. The things i am saying here mean no disrespect to you, your abilities, your beliefs, how far youve come or anythings similar.
I want to begin from the begining (i will try to remember to not copy paste anything so as to make my post longer but intead keep to my words and only refer to other posts so as to keep this shorter). Phasing, PK (as it is called but everyone who uses it means Telekinesis or TK as it can be dubbed), Telepathy, Empathic Projection (Pushing), Telepathic Projection, Teleportation, and many other \"Fluff\"able ideas are feasable but and possible but HIGHLY improbable. Let me start with where this post began. Just as has been said there are \"flukes\" where a person is able to do something that is ment for an extremly high level of ability without much if any practice. This is called a \"flare\" by some but it can turn bad. If a person believes that can do this same ability without this flare and fails than they can get themselves in world of bad. (I will attempt to keep this post on the subject that this all was started on so that it doesn\'t sidetrack like has happened recently in this post. even by the original poster.)
There have been historically documented cases of a phase gone wrong. so let me explain what it is when you phase. I agree in part with the one that calls himself 3k. Phasing is \"mixing\" with the material in other objects. but it is not really mixing per-say. When a phase occures it is because the object to phase through is inanimate and physical so it is able to be \"morphed\" or \"shifted\" with out changing physical shape. Firstly let me explain this, all of the entire fully formed universe that is Phsical and sentient has 5 parts. Body (physical aprt of it), mind (were it goes through what it wants to do and tells its body to do that task), spirit (its life force without which it would die.), soul (the part that is sensative to things in other realms the part that is clarvoiant and able to \"see\" everywhere and anywhere when properly strengthened) and the Personality (the part that makes it unique (this is also the part that makes everyone the same, because you are unique ... just like everybody else.) and different). these 5 parts are what make us and animals/plants similar and also what make Psionics possible in the first place. I can go forever on the subject of how each ability uses what part of \"us\". I will stay on topic though. any questions can be posed later though. Physical objects that are inanimate have fewer parts. Body (physical part), Sprit (Etheral part), mind (it is very robotic and follows the flow of things in it\'s response. To physically influence a Physical
Inanimate object (PK/TK Phasing etc)
you need to be able to convince it that it is part of the way things are already flowing). When a person Phases through an object they are attempting to hold together the form and shape of themselves and move their atoms through another object is what 3k had said (which is generally what \"rain\" had done), what someone actually does (when they feel no pain from the experience) is they are causeing the inanimate object to change its structure and moving through it after that. The structure of the object is no longer mostly Physical but instead Etheral. It is no longer (in that part that is being influenced) able to physicaly resist the pressure put upon it when a person pushes against it. the change takes place in a very small area. It has little range. It is nearly only touch distance. this takes alot of concentration and is difficult at best to conciously(sp) do knowing how to do it. I would suggest that when you ahd phased, 4gotensage, that it felt similar to moving through water in the fact that you felt \"something\" around the part of you that \"phased\" though the object. it was for this reason i just explained. if you felt nothing of the sort than it was because you have not expanded to Extra Sensory Nodes and have difficulty \"sensing\" things beyond your imediate area. any way i have taken this post on for a while and should just let it drop as metalforever attempted. I hope that my stating the facts has assisted to halt this post so it goes no farther from truth and that it is kept from becoming fluff. If there are questions further than what i have explained please feel free to post. Let us keep speculation and \"fluff\" from the conversation and keep a more open mind on all subjects.
Re: yeah. i see tk i see telepathy and all that where does telep
I have never phased nor have ANY experience with phasing, so I can not even begin to describe how it happens, but I have experience with teleportation. I do not like retyping things over and over again, so I will post a discussion of my explanation:
Quote:
[01:32] Yeah, whenever you have time. I\'m very interested in teleportation, if you have some light to shed on that.
01[01:33] What about it?
01[01:34] Teleporation is not so much different from typical psychokinesis except that the history of the object is skewed in relation to its location over its state of motion.
01[01:34] In typical psychokinesis, a mind-matter connection results in the injection of information into a system which elicits a response from the physical system outside of the present.
[01:35] Hm, I see. Would that be a bit different if the one teleported were myself?
01[01:35] It creates an alteration of the objects history so that it was always at x instead of y when it was originally at y.
01[01:35] This results in it jumping from y to x.
01[01:35] bobsackamo, I have only teleported a crayon pencil, once, and not myself.
[01:36] Hey, gotta start somewhere.
01[01:36] In teleporation, the history pertaining to the location of the object is changed resulting in a changing and introduction of future probabilities.
[01:37] I see.
01[01:37] Basically, information pertaining to the future outcome of it being at x instead of y is created and injected in such a way that it disrupts typical entanglement between the present and future and rentangles it with the new future outcome/probaility.
01[01:38] What happens is that the disruption via the non casual response by the physical system results in a type of gap between the present and the future in which the present-future entangles itself with the injected future probability.
01[01:38] Which results in it switching.
01[01:38] The object seems to jump from y to x.
[01:39] But in reality, your just moving it to an alternate reality which it already exists in then, right?
01[01:40] bobsackamo, we do not move through time, technically. Information, which is attached to the physical parts of the object, move via history.
[01:40] Or in which it potentially could have existed in at some point.
01[01:40] Basically, it is not one object through time.
01[01:40] It is mutiple objects through one time.
01[01:40] The past, present, and future are ALL different realities.
01[01:40] That all exists at once.
[01:41] Makes sense, since time, in the traditional sense we think of is only perceived.
01[01:42] You are fowarding information describing the state of the goal to the physical system non temporally which causes a type of upset.
01[01:42] Typically, you can not undo wave function collapse or basic entanglement.
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01[01:43] You are not moving the object at all, technically.
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01[01:43] Information describing that entire state is fowarded into a gap of sorts in which its constructed.
01[01:44] It does not undo the original history; it creates a divergence.
01[01:45] That all you wanted to know.
01[01:46] What I basically did is utilize assocations tied to doing PK with the object changing locations in the future.
01[01:46] In short, you are manipulating the history of the object via introduction of a probability of it being somewhere else via injection.
[01:46] So, your basically changing its \"coordinates\" by manifesting it towards a different awareness, in which it crosses into an alternate potential existence, and appears to move from one location to another?
01[01:47] bobsackamo something like that.
01[01:47] The potential, probable, etc state is manifested via the tie between the present and that moment.
01[01:48] The probability is no longer a probability by its definitive tie to the present, its past, and vice versa.
[01:48] I see, very interesting. Thank you very much, youv\'e given me alot to think about and an all new perspective on this altogether.
[01:53] I think this wouldnt be much different for teleporting a person then, except you would have to completely stop all thought, since each time you think of something you introduce many new variables and potentially alter your understanding. So you would basically have to enter a state of active stagnation I guess :p
01[01:54] bobsackamo, yes.
01[01:54] That is correct, but not totally.
01[01:55] The physical awareness of the location of your body would play an aspect.
01[01:55] You would have to enter a trance state or OBE first.
01[01:55] I am guessing.
01[01:55] I have never teleported myself or another person, before.
[01:55] That is what I currently was under the impression of.
[01:56] Well, Im not gonna go around trying to teleport other people, lol, just myself.
[01:57] Except, its more than an OBE
[01:57] OBE\'s and astral projection are only partial transferences of consciousness.
01[01:57] bobsackamo, that is debatable.
06[01:57] * +leodragon does not feel like going into it
Quote:
It is crucial to point out that, in the view of Schmidt and others who have conducted these studies, the
present intentions, wishes, or PK influences do not change the past. Once an event has occurred, it remains
so; it does not \"un-occur\" or change from its initial form. It appears, instead, that the intentions, wishes, or
PK \"efforts\" influence what happens (or happened) in the first place. To clarify this interpretation even
further, the time-displaced direct mental intervention could be said to \"change\" what would have happened,
but does not change what did happen. If, for example, the past events consisted of holes punched in a paper
tape record, the intervention does not remove holes that were already there. Instead, the intervention
influenced whether certain holes were punched in the first place—if they were punched, they remain
punched; if they were not punched, they remain unpunched.
WELLNESS IMPLICATIONS OF RETROACTIVE INFLUENCE: EXPLORING AN
OUTRAGEOUS HYPOTHESIS.
William Braud, PhD
Future probabilities are manipulated in relation to an inserted divergence in key states relevant to its past history which do not effect points in time prior to that divergence in retroactive forms of PK.
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