I\'m sure you would understand why. It is like telling someone that a god came down from the spirit world and made cheese. You can\'t expect the other person to believe your statements without a decent amount of proof. Mostly, proof is needed because what you are asking the person is to change his mental state of mind. Thusly, changing his life. Taking religion for example, when you believe in a faith, your whole life is going to be affected. This is why proof is important. If you cannot provide proof, why should I use any information of psionics to make sense of my life? Why should I spend countless hours practicing something that may not exist at the expense of my time and effort?
The proof I am looking for is very simple. I am asking anyone to remote view a glass bottle on my desk. It is red with a black cap. Tell me what company makes it. Tell me from what country.
Also, if someone can point me to credible scientific experiments or articles about psionics.
Thanks for the replies. I have tried psionics for a total of at least 10 hours. Nothing noticeable happened. And I\'m sorry but some of the stories you guys have told me I can explain using natural means. Like when southtown transfered his energy into his friend, I can explain this by suggesting that since his friend is really close to him, he can guess with a percent accuracy what southtown was thinking or doing. There is a name for this. A similar concept is when someone always seems to know what you are feeling or thinking. There isn\'t very much in the sense of proof in these things unless we can seperate all known scientific explanations from the subject.
The types of things that would solidify me belief in psionics the proof resembled directly and consistently the predictions described by that field of psionics. One major one would be levetating objects with the mind consistently enough to do it everywhere and anywhere when asked. Another one is remote viewing. If you can see things otherwise physically unreacheable by you and only by me, then that\'s a major indicator of truth. There are very many things in psionics that would definitely be strong proof but I\'ve never been able to acquire.
It\'s fine to wonder about the universe and dabble in mystical, unexplained things like psionics but delving into it as truth is something that requires strong evidence. It is like religion. Many believe in gods and goddesses and attribute many things in their daily lives to the powers of the gods. There may have been many \"miracles\" that have occurred but due to the belief of many individuals, the truth is barred from ever reaching the minds of the believers.
I am the type of skeptical that will consider many things. I don\'t know everything and that\'s why I don\'t rule out supernatural explanations. I believe that there are many factors that may be involved in such explanations that if they were to be revealed, it would make the original superatural explanation seem dull. If you can pick apart a phenomenon and research portions of it, you may find that there is a scientific explanation for everything. Any loose ends would be the lack of information available or science has not yet discovered it. This discovery may yield just another boring fact that is based on something natural or... it may prove that the supernatural assumption was right. If scientists discover psionics bu ruling out all possible theories and facts for explanation, that\'s when the alternate explanations become fewer and fewer until they discover a new theory.
If only a group of the best here and elsewhere can gather together and show the world the proof, it would definitely boost the developement of psionics and we, as humans, will advance really fast and into space.
Or.... I really could be wasting my time typing all this and lose the sleep I could have had 15 minutes ago.
Well the proof is within you , why dont you try it daily , weekly , mothly , and not 10 hours straight , thats sort of draining work, try it for 45 minutes a day , 5 days a week , and maybe the progress with show soon , thats what i did , the only proof i needed was the feeling my first psi ball , thats what got me going , its hard work , ive been doing psionics for almost 2 years and im still not that good, but the thing is , proof is impossible when your looking for perfection , in other words , dont try 10 hours , try working your way up and anything you experience is proof, but you can\'t just practice psionics for 10 hours then be amazing,its work , its now up to you to discover proof , and you to become the best psion you can possibly be. peace.
When people believe in something strongly enough, you dont need proof. Sure, it\'s illogical, but faith and belief is not only a good and beneficial thing, it\'s powerful. Faith in God started the Crusades; an entire war. This may not be good, but it is immensively powerful. Those who believe in a religion have a set of rules or values that they live every day by. In fact, were it not for religion, we would not have laws, government, or a society to speak of. I myself am agnostic, but I realise the potential of faith and religion.
When you gain more and more proof you will start to have incredible confidence in your ability. Proof is a mental reward. It is a very nice thing. No-one likes the idea of working blindly to no end. Some easy proof may be your intuitive thought or bodily sensations from energy work or meditations. When I started having proof with my training, it paid off, it feels fantastic to know it is doing exactly what it\'s supposed to.
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If you got proof that pk is real, you would still need proof that you can do it as well. Which is why I don\'t consider anything other than own experience as proof.
If you want scientific experiments and articles, I posted something on ATS:
sorry I had to do this. And thanks to all those who read this.
I mean that vampires DO actually exist, since a human\'s molecular or psionic nature is so vast, so infinite, you could never explore all of it... Therefore my new abilities are infact real... like it or not. I can establish a VAMPIRIC CHARM without any link to a chosen person... sounds insane? Well, it is. But it does work.
I can also (at will) attract wild animals and control them. When I get into a state of mind where I am more in tune with nature, I can very easily predict everything and control wild animals in my surroundings... Also I can understand or interpret the telepathic message that come from some animals/creatures.... Cheers...
Thanks for the replies. I
Thanks for the replies. I have tried psionics for a total of at least 10 hours. Nothing noticeable happened. And I\'m sorry but some of the stories you guys have told me I can explain using natural means. Like when southtown transfered his energy into his friend, I can explain this by suggesting that since his friend is really close to him, he can guess with a percent accuracy what southtown was thinking or doing. There is a name for this. A similar concept is when someone always seems to know what you are feeling or thinking. There isn\'t very much in the sense of proof in these things unless we can seperate all known scientific explanations from the subject.
The types of things that would solidify me belief in psionics the proof resembled directly and consistently the predictions described by that field of psionics. One major one would be levetating objects with the mind consistently enough to do it everywhere and anywhere when asked. Another one is remote viewing. If you can see things otherwise physically unreacheable by you and only by me, then that\'s a major indicator of truth. There are very many things in psionics that would definitely be strong proof but I\'ve never been able to acquire.
It\'s fine to wonder about the universe and dabble in mystical, unexplained things like psionics but delving into it as truth is something that requires strong evidence. It is like religion. Many believe in gods and goddesses and attribute many things in their daily lives to the powers of the gods. There may have been many \"miracles\" that have occurred but due to the belief of many individuals, the truth is barred from ever reaching the minds of the believers.
I am the type of skeptical that will consider many things. I don\'t know everything and that\'s why I don\'t rule out supernatural explanations. I believe that there are many factors that may be involved in such explanations that if they were to be revealed, it would make the original superatural explanation seem dull. If you can pick apart a phenomenon and research portions of it, you may find that there is a scientific explanation for everything. Any loose ends would be the lack of information available or science has not yet discovered it. This discovery may yield just another boring fact that is based on something natural or... it may prove that the supernatural assumption was right. If scientists discover psionics bu ruling out all possible theories and facts for explanation, that\'s when the alternate explanations become fewer and fewer until they discover a new theory.
If only a group of the best here and elsewhere can gather together and show the world the proof, it would definitely boost the developement of psionics and we, as humans, will advance really fast and into space.
Or.... I really could be wasting my time typing all this and lose the sleep I could have had 15 minutes ago.
proof problem
Well the proof is within you , why dont you try it daily , weekly , mothly , and not 10 hours straight , thats sort of draining work, try it for 45 minutes a day , 5 days a week , and maybe the progress with show soon , thats what i did , the only proof i needed was the feeling my first psi ball , thats what got me going , its hard work , ive been doing psionics for almost 2 years and im still not that good, but the thing is , proof is impossible when your looking for perfection , in other words , dont try 10 hours , try working your way up and anything you experience is proof, but you can\'t just practice psionics for 10 hours then be amazing,its work , its now up to you to discover proof , and you to become the best psion you can possibly be. peace.
Re: Guys, I need proof.
When people believe in something strongly enough, you dont need proof. Sure, it\'s illogical, but faith and belief is not only a good and beneficial thing, it\'s powerful. Faith in God started the Crusades; an entire war. This may not be good, but it is immensively powerful. Those who believe in a religion have a set of rules or values that they live every day by. In fact, were it not for religion, we would not have laws, government, or a society to speak of. I myself am agnostic, but I realise the potential of faith and religion.
Re: Guys, I need proof.
When you gain more and more proof you will start to have incredible confidence in your ability. Proof is a mental reward. It is a very nice thing. No-one likes the idea of working blindly to no end. Some easy proof may be your intuitive thought or bodily sensations from energy work or meditations. When I started having proof with my training, it paid off, it feels fantastic to know it is doing exactly what it\'s supposed to.
So keep it up, there will be proof.
-- chevres109
Re: Guys, I need proof.
Hi dude
Did you get your proof???
I think anybody capable of giving you a worthy proof wouldnt have time to do so
Dont you think???
Believe in yourself,Thats the biggest proof
Re: Guys, I need proof.
If you got proof that pk is real, you would still need proof that you can do it as well. Which is why I don\'t consider anything other than own experience as proof.
If you want scientific experiments and articles, I posted something on ATS:
About Real-Life Super-Powers: [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread58567/pg80]http://www.abovetop...
Re: Guys, I need proof.
sorry sorry for my language *cough* *cough* ...
You the only proof that guy needs is to have proof for himself, not to impress the \'loser friends\'. ;)
Re: Guys, I need proof.
sorry I had to do this. And thanks to all those who read this.
I mean that vampires DO actually exist, since a human\'s molecular or psionic nature is so vast, so infinite, you could never explore all of it... Therefore my new abilities are infact real... like it or not. I can establish a VAMPIRIC CHARM without any link to a chosen person... sounds insane? Well, it is. But it does work.
Re: Guys, I need proof.
I can also (at will) attract wild animals and control them. When I get into a state of mind where I am more in tune with nature, I can very easily predict everything and control wild animals in my surroundings... Also I can understand or interpret the telepathic message that come from some animals/creatures.... Cheers...
Re: Guys, I need proof.
I know many people who come here are totally new to psionics
I was one such person who found it hard to believe that these amazing things could be reality
But now my faith in psionics is increasing constantly due to many of my experiments
Here is one such experiments which can be tried by beginners and which has successfull results on most of the people:-
If you are addicted to something like smoking and want to quit it ,here is a little exercise that can help
This can be used for other purposes also like if you want to do something that you have been trying to,such as losing weight,studying etc
You can try this
First of all you must have some basic knowledge about constructs
how to make one and how to program it
If you dont know properly then the guide available on this website is a good source
now what you have to do is make a construct of some considerable amount of energy
psyball is a construct and you can make it exactly like a psyball
keep adding energy and specify a source of energy for your construct
now program it to help quit your habbit for example you can program it to prevent you from smoking for continously 3 days
now leave it free to do its work
if you are successfull in your task then you know that these constructs really work
Note that you also must try to control yourself and do not try to purposely break your promise
I and many people whom i know have tried this and it works 8 times out of 10
Re: Guys, I need proof.
Also do not forget to program your construct to self destruct after 3 days or whatever time you have constructed it for
This is not necessary as stated by most but still i prefer this practice
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