Cloaking

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Would like to know more about it as well.

Ehm, what type of cloak do you exactly need?
And do you already have some Psi experience?

F.

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I know it is a type shield i have seen it one Psipog.net but why have i not seen any information here.
Would like to know more about it as well.

Ehm, what type of cloak do you exactly need?
And do you already have some Psi experience?

F.

If you had taken look at my Hello You would know that i do and here is a link that i found [a href="http://www.psipog.net/art-common-shields.html" target="_blank"]http://www.psipog.net/art-common-shields.html[/a]

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I know it is a type shield i have seen it one Psipog.net but why have i not seen any information here.
Would like to know more about it as well.

Ehm, what type of cloak do you exactly need?
And do you already have some Psi experience?

F.

If you had taken look at my Hello You would know that i do and here is a link that i found [a href="http://www.psipog.net/art-common-shields.html" target="_blank"]http://www.psipog.net/art-common-shields.html[/a]

Okay, whatever, but what kind of cloak do you want?

I think he wants to be able to cloak his energy field to not be sensed, even by experienced psions.

Your still a beginner i have been practicing for over year now how long have u been practicing. Cloaking is defined my many things here is just a few. To cloak: to hides ones presents, to become invisible, ect.

[!--quoteo--][div class='quotetop']QUOTE [/div][div class='quotemain'][!--quotec--]Your still a beginner i have been practicing for over year now how long have u been practicing. Cloaking is defined my many things here is just a few. To cloak: to hides ones presents, to become invisible, ect.

Chances are is that you're trying to do force hallucination by using a shield to broadcast the message. Now the real question should be...can you even do it?

Well i agree the only acticle i found was one made by Peebrain. But it sounds like it is possible.

[!--quoteo--][div class='quotetop']QUOTE [/div][div class='quotemain'][!--quotec--]Well i agree the only acticle i found was one made by Peebrain. But it sounds like it is possible.

Oh, I believe it's probable of happening, but I question the idea that you'll succeed.

[!--quoteo--][div class='quotetop']QUOTE [/div][div class='quotemain'][!--quotec--]Your still a beginner i have been practicing for over year now how long have u been practicing. Cloaking is defined my many things here is just a few. To cloak: to hides ones presents, to become invisible, ect.

Then why are you asking how to cloak?

Ok? well one year is not even close enough to being able to make a shield like that. Unless you are really talented >.>. OK answer this question what's the most you have even done with psi? I have been using psi for a little more than 2 years, and i know that cloaking at this point is more of a fantasy than an actual goal. No offense I dont mean to say anything rude, I'm just saying you can try and good luck. Dont be shocked if it dosnt happen =/.

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Your still a beginner i have been practicing for over year now how long have u been practicing. Cloaking is defined my many things here is just a few. To cloak: to hides ones presents, to become invisible, ect.

Then why are you asking how to cloak?
well i like to have the info so when i feel that i have enough experience.

For those seeking information regarding how not to be seen, I recommend this film.

[a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ" target="_blank"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ[/a]

[!--quoteo--][div class='quotetop']QUOTE [/div][div class='quotemain'][!--quotec--]Your still a beginner i have been practicing for over year now how long have u been practicing. Cloaking is defined my many things here is just a few. To cloak: to hides ones presents, to become invisible, ect.

From what I've heard, someone who practices 'over 1 year' is still some kind of beginner.

F.

*edit: Depends on what you think of 'beginner skills'

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Your still a beginner i have been practicing for over year now how long have u been practicing. Cloaking is defined my many things here is just a few. To cloak: to hides ones presents, to become invisible, ect.

From what I've heard, someone who practices 'over 1 year' is still some kind of beginner.

F.

*edit: Depends on what you think of 'beginner skills'

You need over 30 years of experience and understanding just to be consider 'advance'. Although, the only rank scale I follow is Intrepid's. I'm still consider a novice. However, that doesn't mean, you can practice for 30 years and instantly raise up the ranks. No. You have to actually know the shit. Learn a bit. Research at libraries and the such.

Ranks are ranks though. A nice way to gauge where we are at, but not something to be actually taken seriously. However, I like the system as it shows that no matter how much you learn and how long you practice, you can't know everything.

[!--quoteo--][div class='quotetop']QUOTE [/div][div class='quotemain'][!--quotec--]For those seeking information regarding how not to be seen, I recommend this film.

[a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ" target="_blank"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ[/a]

HAHAHAHA!!! ROFL X 5....that's good...seriously...it's been YEARS since I saw that....oh man...

*still wiping away tears of laughter*

[!--quoteo--][div class='quotetop']QUOTE [/div][div class='quotemain'][!--quotec--]I know it is a type shield i have seen it one Psipog.net but why have i not seen any information here.
Would like to know more about it as well.

NSFP (Not safe for purists : )

gl cloaking without use of elemental energies.

Shadow walking:

[a href="http://secretsofthemind.googlepages.com/shadowwalking" target="_blank"]http://secretsofthemind.googlepages.com/shadowwalking[/a]

"History Wipe technique":

[a href="http://realityreset.blogspot.com/2008/04/advanced-history-wipe-technique.html" target="_blank"]http://realityreset.blogspot.com/2008/04/a...-technique.html[/a]

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I know it is a type shield i have seen it one Psipog.net but why have i not seen any information here.
Would like to know more about it as well.

NSFP (Not safe for purists : )

gl cloaking without use of elemental energies.

Shadow walking:

[a href="http://secretsofthemind.googlepages.com/shadowwalking" target="_blank"]http://secretsofthemind.googlepages.com/shadowwalking[/a]

"History Wipe technique":

[a href="http://realityreset.blogspot.com/2008/04/advanced-history-wipe-technique.html" target="_blank"]http://realityreset.blogspot.com/2008/04/a...-technique.html[/a]

I'm actually quite good with shadow walking even though I've never come across an article like the one you posted. I'm often able to walk around my friends and they will be surprised to see me next to them.
Actually Black Thunder, that was a good suggestion and probably a better way of doing it anyway. The thing with cloaking using a shield is the use of energy and time to build one, not to mention the skill. Why bother? Adding energy to yourself will only make you more noticeable unless your programming is legendary. Taking energy away from yourself will render you invisible to people's esp, and much faster.

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I know it is a type shield i have seen it one Psipog.net but why have i not seen any information here.
Would like to know more about it as well.

NSFP (Not safe for purists : )

gl cloaking without use of elemental energies.

Shadow walking:

[a href="http://secretsofthemind.googlepages.com/shadowwalking" target="_blank"]http://secretsofthemind.googlepages.com/shadowwalking[/a]

"History Wipe technique":

[a href="http://realityreset.blogspot.com/2008/04/advanced-history-wipe-technique.html" target="_blank"]http://realityreset.blogspot.com/2008/04/a...-technique.html[/a]

I'm actually quite good with shadow walking even though I've never come across an article like the one you posted. I'm often able to walk around my friends and they will be surprised to see me next to them.
Actually Black Thunder, that was a good suggestion and probably a better way of doing it anyway. The thing with cloaking using a shield is the use of energy and time to build one, not to mention the skill. Why bother? Adding energy to yourself will only make you more noticeable unless your programming is legendary. Taking energy away from yourself will render you invisible to people's esp, and much faster.

That's what the history wipe technique does. Cover yourself with void and mainly stealth until you fade.

Yeah, Ben's a lot better at it than me and he's done some rather funny things. XD

I really don't think it matters if your a beginner or not, all he wants to know is how to cloack.

This is my opinion, and should be treated as such. THat said....

Shielding, and the uses of it, seems to have taken on a life of its own. It is my view, that for the most part, it is a device for beginners (a good one, yes) and for particular needs. Shields should be an ad hoc event . Ad hoc, as in "at this time, for this purpose." A sheild is not something you live in.... At some point, you should be suffiiciently skilled in filtering, blocking, evading and so on, as to use them only when necessary. You should also be sufficiently controlled that broadcasting is not an issue.

That said, designing, building and determing how to maintain one, is excellent practice in manipulation, planning, and erecting one with good speed. Do it! (and remember to have some fun. Funniest design for a shield I've ever seen was a one of those spaceships from the Jetsons cartoon)

I saw a remark about adding and taking away energy from your field/presence. Gathering or charging to make a shield does make the signature more prevalent. Where the idea that depleting energy from yourself makes you invisible, is beyond me, though I may have misunderstood that. If you think being energy defiicient makes you harder to find, you are mistaken.

Lets think this through. You have a field, at whatever size or frequency you like to think of it. Your fiield reacts and changes iin some degree to your thoughts, and especially your emotions. It responds to your commands if you take the time to train it. Your 'field' is your awareness. Practice feeling it, moving it around. Its flexible. Expand it, contract it, make like a triangle if it amuses you. Its yours. Work it.

For lack of a better terms at this wee hour of the morning, your thoughts and emotions, make noise. Now lets say you are nervous, and make a shield to hide yourself. Said shield may do a nice job of being a solid barrier. Too bad you are doing all that rattling inside it, causing the shield itself to resonate. Furthermore, the scanner is sweeping the area, and bumps into something solid. The scanner will take a few hits at it for a reaction. If there is a response/change, he's got you. (So dont respond, hmm, let him think he missed and move on)

A cloaking device, is not a device at all. Its a quiet mind, extending control, to quiet its own field. The best cloaking I have ever encountered, is from habitual meditators. They quiet their mind, drop the frequency of their fiield drastically. Even if you suspect you located them, they are disciplined, and don't respond to contact.

Can a beginner learn this? even one who doesnt meditate? yes, certainly. Find methods that work for you, to get quick and firm control of your emotional state. When you achieve this, focus on extending outward throughout your field. To all but the most skilled, you just dropped off the radar. You will be excruciatiingly difficult to find. And by all means, have a little fun . Make a nicely noisy construct (decoy) and toss it away from yourself.

Until you learn this, check out the 'hedge' shield at psc_online. Its basically a construct shield so boring, you get passed right by.

Due to my abusive childhood, I have actually learned many things naturally that helped keep me concealed. Until I started psionics and a lot of inward searching and discovery, I was not even aware of half of these things, but I'll share them with you. If you really focus on these things you can walk right up to someone without them realizing you are even there, and scare the hell 'outta them. ;D

First and most importantly, emotional control, this is also somewhat similar to what intrepid was saying;

[!--quoteo--][div class='quotetop']QUOTE [/div][div class='quotemain'][!--quotec--]Lets think this through. You have a field, at whatever size or frequency you like to think of it. Your fiield reacts and changes iin some degree to your thoughts, and especially your emotions. It responds to your commands if you take the time to train it. Your 'field' is your awareness. Practice feeling it, moving it around. Its flexible. Expand it, contract it, make like a triangle if it amuses you. Its yours. Work it.

For lack of a better terms at this wee hour of the morning, your thoughts and emotions, make noise. Now lets say you are nervous, and make a shield to hide yourself. Said shield may do a nice job of being a solid barrier. Too bad you are doing all that rattling inside it, causing the shield itself to resonate. Furthermore, the scanner is sweeping the area, and bumps into something solid. The scanner will take a few hits at it for a reaction. If there is a response/change, he's got you. (So dont respond, hmm, let him think he missed and move on)

To elaborate on that, and I wouldn't swear that this works for everyone (however it works wonders for me), you basically need to remain completely passive on an emotional level. If you remain like that, with absolutely no emotional change, you basically have an empathetic signature (for lack of a better term) of a rock, thus you are less likely to be noticed on a subconscious level.

Secondly, since we have tackled the emotional/metaphysical (can I say that? ) side, it also works wonders to pay attention to the physical as well. I cringe every time I see someone sneaking like the gang from scooby-doo. What you really need to do is walk slower, and concentrate on controlling the decent of your foot.

Here is a little exercise for you to try that will help you achieve this, when you have some free time, walk as silently and quietly as you can. You will want the heel of your foot to touch the ground first, tilted slightly to the outside (so that the inside [or arch] of your foot is barely hovering above the ground. With as little noise as possible, roll your foot forward along the narrow, flat part of the outside of your foot (alongside the arch) to the ball of your foot as you lift your heel, and flatten the angle so you are standing on the full part of the ball of your foot, then use your leg to lift your foot from that position as you repeat with the other foot.

Normally when we walk we follow the same principal, however the ball of our foot and toes tends to smack the ground, pivoting from the heel's contact with the ground, which makes noise, unless you walk flat-footed, where the whole foot lands on the ground which creates a subtle clapping sound. Also when we roll off of our toes while transferring weight to the other leg, we tend to "sweep" our toes backwards which creates more sound. Focus on every little detail that makes sound while you walk and silence it. Practice this daily, and when you get comfortable with that, try it while walking normally, maybe even adding a little more speed.

You might also want to try and train your breathing so that you breathe a lot slower through your nose (this could get hard to get used to) to the point where you cant even hear it (in case you do not do this naturally, I know many people do, but some people tend to be loud breathers as well ).

I do all this naturally, thanks to my childhood, and everyone keeps getting pissed off at me and accuses me of "sneaking up on them", and on top of that, hell, I practically have to do friggin jumping-jacks to get someone's attention! lol Granted this comes from 15+ years of "conditioning" and...well I guess you could call it something like "instinctive survival". Oh yeah, and I very rarely keep myself shielded as well, so if you can master the above, throw a well-designed shield on top of that and you could pretty damn well turn "invisible", depending on the other person's perceptive abilities that is.

These alone obviously will not hide you from psions, and the physical points obviously will not help at all, but if your goal is to go unnoticed in a social situation or something like that... there ya go

Its about time someone realised the importance of a quiet mind.

ive been practacing psionics for the past 8 years now. and meditating for at least 5 of those regularly.
90% of the time i can walk into a crouded room and no one will notice me untill i make a sound, talk, ect.(the other 10% when there is a psion in the room that is paying attention).

like Intrepid Said, cloaking is about Emotional and mental control. just keep quiet.

my goal is to literaly vanish.. so that im completely invisiable to even cameras. perhaps one day.

just keep at it dragon, in good time you will be able to cloak.. or perhaps literaly turn invisable. time will tell.
and importantly.. have fun.

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[a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ" target="_blank"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ[/a]
oh gods that was funny!

i have a theory of sorts on how to shield ones energy signature and am in the process of figuring out just how valid said theory would be. though i must admit the most obvious way to "not be seen" is to refrain from drawing attention to oneself.