My skepticism is not focused on the psionic abilities of Nina Kulagina. Though, I have a question about something which many PK practitioners seem to take for granted. There seems to be a common sort of group think related to Nina's story, that if one trains hard in PK, they'll die. Now again, I'm not saying Nina's abilities were fake, nor am I doubting her poor health. I am questioning the idea that training hard equals poor health or death in all people.
From wiki:
[i]In the late 1970s, a near fatal heart attack forced Kulagina to scale back her activities. According to a report produced by Dr. Zverev, her heartbeat was irregular, she had high blood sugar, and her endocrine system was disturbed. Over the long term, she suffered from pains in her arms and legs, could not coordinate properly, and experienced dizziness. The report said that these symptoms were the result of her paranormal exertions, and limited her ability to demonstrate psychokinesis under controlled conditions.[/i]
Well, I'm not a doctor but how do we know she didn't have health problems having nothing to do with PK? The symptoms seem like the health problems that can develop from poor diet or smoking. So, I ask, what was her diet like? Did she smoke? What's her family history? How about her environment? Perhaps she was under stress, but isn't that performance anxiety, rather than training related stress?
What I'm getting at, is that I train hard, and I'm healthy:) I am an adult, and I train from 6-10 hours a day depending on work. When I'm not training directly; I'm thinking about PK. I have been practicing PK for about a month and a 1/2, and I've progressed very quickly. Why do I train so hard? I train the same way that I trained as a visual artist; as a musician, as well as in martial arts. I train the way an athlete would train; because I want to achieve excellence. It seems to me, that if we're not going to think critically about this Nina Kulagina story, then it's just the monster in the closet, and I can't take it seriously. Something to consider is that we all have different mental and physical thresholds. Another thing to consider as any athlete will tell you, most of us are capable of much more than we think we are. I do believe that there is such a thing as over training; so I take breaks, I cross train by moving different objects, I read & meditate. If know one has the guts to push themselves, we won't get far with PK. People sailed across the sea & flew in to space; we shouldn't be blindly afraid:)
I don't know anything about Nina Kulagina, however i may have an explanation for what happened.
One of the main side effects from hardcore training is an increased bioelectric output. Once you hit a particular milestone in this incrementation, some people experience something i call "Thunder Fever" (mostly because it's fitting and there is no other name for the phenomenon). As a result of hitting this milestone, a greater increment of bioelectricity is established for use. However, in most cases the body isn't prepared to handle the higher output, thus resulting in rashes, boils, fever, sores, and related issues. In extreme cases the practitioner may experience burns. This phenonmenon also generally puts the body into a toss, and can cause your systems to behave funny.
This is variant on particular people, for example I only experienced rashes and the feeling of being hot all the time, and it was gone in a under a week. For some people this can last years, as their bodies do not adapt to the new energy. Poor diet and continued exertion have been known to extend this buffer time. Frankly im not surprised at all if it were to result in death, especially if the complexity of the fever was as stated. Poor management of the fever will result in repressions, especially in more complex cases.
I would recommend if anyone is to experience this, that you should do the following:
1) discontinue all training for the duration of the fever
2) do simple energy cycling meditations daily to make sure you are balanced, DO NOT attempt to raise new energy.
3) eat well. No junk food, no beverages, no alcohol, no recreational enhancers especially.
4) if the pain is unbearable, you can take pain medicine, however it's recommended you suffer the full brunt of the fever as you wont get used to it otherwise.
5) you can see a doctor to help treat the boils, rashes, burns, or sores.
6) eastern medicine practitioners may be able to assist you regulate the fever, but its not entirely necessary in most cases.
Now I'm not a medical doctor so what i stated has no medical standing, but frankly no medical doctor trained to help you with this. Unless you want to submit to be numbed up for the rest of your life. My advise is based of personal experience and the experiences of others, so only take it as seriously as you would under similar circumstances.
I just don't except what you're saying as a limitation for myself. I don't think I except any limitations for myself. Perhaps this comes down to how one believes these abilities work. I don't see psychokinesis or energy work as me channeling something outside of myself, which my body has to adjust to. When I move something for instance, I experience a oneness or realization that I am the thing which I think I'm moving. It's kind of like the mind observing the mind. On the other hand, I think that one can manifest a paradigm if one is comfortable with it. How do you know that these psi related health problems are not self inflicted by ones own negative expectation? Placebos can be quite powerful:)
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How do you know that these psi related health problems are not self inflicted by ones own negative expectation? Placebos can be quite powerful:)
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Yes i'm aware, however this occurrence tends to happen on the unexpected practitioner. Being that an experienced one may have already gone through it or knows how to deal with it.
I'm not stating it as an inevitability, just a possibility of intense practice. It usually only happens once to the practitioner, for some people it doesn't happen at all. It varies highly on the persons sensitivity. Like i said, most cases are very minor, so it's not something to worry about. Frankly for me it's a positive experience, because i know as a result ill be able to manage more bioelectricity, and thus lead to better progress as a practitioner. It's not in any way a limitation, in fact far from it. I just stated that if poorly managed can result in some pretty nasty things.
Don't expect it to occur, just note it's existence.
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