For Psions it is possible to share their psychokinesis with their constructs like at psipog when people were experimenting with psiballs that were psychokinetic. Any group of psions can try putting multiple constructs together.
Have psions ever tried combining psychokinetic ability in constructs or telepathically to lift objects?
I haven't tried lifting yet but I have used a few different construct setups for spinning the psiwheel.
Have multiple psions shared a single psychokinetic construct with all of the psychokinetic ability of multiple psions?
That is like asking if living things use [url=http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html]dihydrogen monoxide[/url]. It confuses people. I promise you that it has happened even if the involved psions did not know about it at the time.
To the point: [i]It does happen[/i]. Can I give a specific example? Not without going into far too much detail.
I was thinking that say 10 psions could each move 1 pound of material. A psionic construct with combined psychokinetic ability could be used to move 10 pounds. Each psion could use the construct in turn to study the task of generating, sustaining, and controlling a ten pound psychokinetic force if only as a construct. A construct like this, if correctly made, would have calculated and simultaneous links between 10 people. Simultaneous links between people would be a telepathic network with a construct expression. So network security is a must like the internet except with people, if anything like this is ever attempted.
[quote="Macman"]I was thinking that say 10 psions could each move 1 pound of material. A psionic construct with combined psychokinetic ability could be used to move 10 pounds.[/quote] Weight distribution is a viable means of easing the burden for physical labor. Practice of Telekinesis is not physical labor. Most psions struggle to achieve proper directional control of a balanced object with nearly zero friction. It would require actively moving the thought process for TK to the part of the brain that handles motor coordination. It is the only part of the brain capable of calculating both the intended movement and the action/reaction from the other psions engaged in the exercise. Also, since TK is not the same as physical labor a psion is not limited to a single pound of lift. The actual limit will vary, mostly dependent on the willpower of the individual.
[quote]Simultaneous links between people would be a telepathic network with a construct expression. So network security is a must like the internet except with people, if anything like this is ever attempted.[/quote]This is already in place and in use 100% of the time, without the construct(s). This is exactly why shielding is one of the first lessons a psion should start with and hopefully also the first one mastered. The collective mind is always on, ready for active or passive connection. And you better believe that you are at least on a passive connection unless you specifically shield against it (not an easy task, even for an old pro).
I understand the internet reference. There are so many similarities that the comparison is easy to make. Like the internet, there are multiple parts that are required to make it exist and they all have to interconnect or it is just gone. The conscious mind is the CPU Cache, the brain is the CPU, RAM, NIC and storage all rolled into one.
In my experience, multiple people trying to combine thier PK force attemting something they cannot do alone has never worked.
I believe PK to be an expectation thing. When you fail its not due to not having enough energy to fuel it. Its due to you not having the exact right mental state, the exact right expectation, etc. Multiple people attemting will not change this.
It can, as a matter of fact, be a hinderance. One of the Pkers is exerting force via PK that would move it, while the other PKer is attemting to move it but has the expectation "man, this thing is stayng still. Its not going anywhere" then he can bring down the other PKers attempt.
This is all just my experience.
[quote="Trick"]In my experience, multiple people trying to combine thier PK force attemting something they cannot do alone has never worked.
I believe PK to be an expectation thing. When you fail its not due to not having enough energy to fuel it. Its due to you not having the exact right mental state, the exact right expectation, etc. Multiple people attemting will not change this.
It can, as a matter of fact, be a hinderance. One of the Pkers is exerting force via PK that would move it, while the other PKer is attemting to move it but has the expectation "man, this thing is stayng still. Its not going anywhere" then he can bring down the other PKers attempt.
This is all just my experience.[/quote]
Belief is a major part of the practice of PK. It doesn't matter what you tell yourself you believe, you cannot change your beliefs that easily. It is possible for multiple psions to combine effort to achieve a goal. In my experience it isn't intuitive, it isn't adding force to achieve a sum of force. Two or more psions on the same frequency (in tune with each other) will have an exponential multiplication of power when they work in tandem. It is a very frightening thing to behold when you are not expecting it and very intoxicating every time after. There are also residual effects after the fact, such as power surges in solo attempts at PK.
It is difficult to find a psion who is on the same frequency, but once you understand how frequency tuning works it isn't hard to adjust to one another. Fair warning, you need advanced understanding of shielding techniques before you attempt this or you will not know which of you originated an idea.
[quote="Wyndle"][quote="Trick"]In my experience, multiple people trying to combine thier PK force attemting something they cannot do alone has never worked.
I believe PK to be an expectation thing. When you fail its not due to not having enough energy to fuel it. Its due to you not having the exact right mental state, the exact right expectation, etc. Multiple people attemting will not change this.
It can, as a matter of fact, be a hinderance. One of the Pkers is exerting force via PK that would move it, while the other PKer is attemting to move it but has the expectation "man, this thing is stayng still. Its not going anywhere" then he can bring down the other PKers attempt.
This is all just my experience.[/quote]
Belief is a major part of the practice of PK. It doesn't matter what you tell yourself you believe, you cannot change your beliefs that easily. It is possible for multiple psions to combine effort to achieve a goal. In my experience it isn't intuitive, it isn't adding force to achieve a sum of force. Two or more psions on the same frequency (in tune with each other) will have an exponential multiplication of power when they work in tandem. It is a very frightening thing to behold when you are not expecting it and very intoxicating every time after. There are also residual effects after the fact, such as power surges in solo attempts at PK.
It is difficult to find a psion who is on the same frequency, but once you understand how frequency tuning works it isn't hard to adjust to one another. Fair warning, you need advanced understanding of shielding techniques before you attempt this or you will not know which of you originated an idea.[/quote]
How do you know this? From "I think this sounds right", or personal experience? And, what exactly was the experience?
[quote="Trick"]How do you know this? From "I think this sounds right", or personal experience? And, what exactly was the experience?[/quote]
While I was in college I happened upon an equal in mind and spirit. We taught each other a few things and we practiced energy work together for quite a while. One night we were focusing on spiritual communications and the subject of a stolen knife came up. Next thing I know, the knife clunks to the floor under my seat. I put the seat there myself and had opportunity to see the underside. I know the knife wasn't physically planted under me. After that event we noticed many surges in our practices, including a brief space/time warp while driving. I am reluctant to bring it up since the two of us were the only witnesses to each and every event and I have no proof.
Ohh, I misunderstood the question. Is the question asking "does practicing with other people enhance practice" then YES.
This is basically the whole point of a spoon bending party. Theres so many people, so much energy, one persons spoon bends, then everyone elses bends too, etc. Large groups of people can be very powerful.
In theory it should work, I however have never tried it.
When I was in highschool and just started working with psiwheels, my older brother was learning as well. We used to have "psi battles". Basically the opposite of what you mentioned. However, something fairly unique about PK, it's fairly common to get the opposite result. So if you intend for a clockwise spin, don't be surprised if the result is a counter-clockwise spin sometimes.
Opposite result is very common and it is caused by the weird way our brains work. Everything is reversed inside our brain. The right brain controls the left side of the body and images are upside down on the optic nerves at the back of your eye. The real trick is to find a compensation method. Your brain is used to working with intermediary parts (arm, mouth, ear) that reverse the signals incoming and outgoing automatically. Find an intermediary part (typically a construct) to reverse the signal from your brain and you should drastically reduce opposite results in your practice.
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